I need some quick help with my hw

[tsukikage]

You know, I was just going to ask this in a comment to musing_mouse's journal, but I guess I'll go ahead and ask it here.
Descriptively, are the following two sentences grammatical? Assume that the discussion riots were not in the bar.

1) The discussion of the riots in the bar was full and frank.

2) The discussion in the bar of the riots was full and frank.

Thanks much. :)

And an interesting clip of accent immitations:

Comments

[carve037.livejournal.com]

1. Yes, in the bar being tied to riots, not discussion. Sounds fine to me.

2. No, unless "the bar of the riots" refers to, say, the bar the riots took place in. That would change the meaning, so no. of the riots is a complement, which means it has to be closer than the adjunct if they both refer back to the discussion.

[tsukikage85.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I meant with the intepretation that the riots did not take place in the bar. So, for sentence 1 you couldn't interpret "in the bar" as the adjunct sister of "discussion of the riots"?
I suck at this whole adjunct/complement thing. Esp. with AdvPs and AdjPs...

[akaneko.livejournal.com]

Both are awkward, but #2 is particularly atrocious. It'd be better if it had "about the riots" rather than "of the riots". Also, "a full discussion" sounds alright to me, but "the discussion was full" sounds weird. For some reason I just don't like it in the predicate at all.

[akaneko.livejournal.com]

"The discussion of the riots in the bar..." is ambiguous but definitely grammatical, in my judgment, regardless of whether it was the discussion that took place in the bar or the riots that took place in the bar. Bad style, but do-able grammar.

[musing-mouse.livejournal.com]

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[carve037.livejournal.com]

That's frightening. She could pass as anything. Like Jason Bourne or something.

I particularly am impressed with her California rendition.