At least after one watching, I am totally in love with this video

[tsukikage]

So now I'm stuck watching fanvids, and am re-watching the "Papa Don't Preach" vid starring Jack. This video is full of supreme LOLs.

UGH, MAJOR piss-off here. One of the vids by this person has a message at the beginning saying "Attention: The clips in this video are not to be distribuited (their spelling error, not mine) or cut for use in other music videos or any other media. Doing this is an act of plagiarism. And do not post this video in any other website without my express permission. Thank you."
What the hell do you think you're doing? Taking clips from a series that belongs to someone else (namely the BBC) and posting it on YouTube without their express permission. Regardless of your thoughts on the legality of those two actions, once you have done them you have no right to expect others not to do the same with your work.
Honestly, it's the same annoyance I've mentioned before (I think) about fansubbers telling people not to put their works on streaming sites, and getting wanky when they do. Telling people not to sell fansubs is one thing, telling them not to freely distribute it is another entirely.

Comments

[belindabird.livejournal.com]

I'd tend to agree with you if I didn't know certain things about both the vidding and fansubbing communities:

Cutting clips and turning them into a memorable, coherent video is hard work. It takes a lot of know-how to encode a video well, to edit well to the music and to create a story with the clips that people may not expect and which effectively explores a concept. When someone takes your hard work and either reposts it as their own or takes your encode and chops it up so that they can use the clips, it can be pretty insulting in spite of the dubious legality of the practice in the first place.

I've had my Guts video reposted on Youtube and other sites literally about a dozen times, none of which were after the posters asked my permission. I'm not personally too upset about it, but I've been given various amounts of credit for it ranging from someone explicitly stating in the comments that I was responsible for the video and not the poster, to being completely eliminated from the video (they posted everything but the credits). I did put a lot of time and effort into the video, and there's a twinge of irritation when someone takes that hard work and tries to pass it off as their own.

There are a lot of legal arguments within the community as to how legal the practice of vidding actually is and who has ownership of the final product (though studios and artists obviously own the original video and music, does the vid itself constitute a new entity and does it fall under laws governing artistic appropriation?). Most people are fully aware that what they're doing has dubious legality written all over it, but can you blame them for trying to keep people from messing with their hard work? Sometimes these vids can take months to complete and a ton of thought goes into the editing (just ask marainsanity) so I can totally understand why a vidder would be protective.

As for fansubs, do you realize how much expertise it takes to create a great, managebly-sized encode of a video? We take for granted that most of us can torrent an anime episode within an hour over the internet, but making the episode look good and making sure the translation is as accurate as possible (I know not all groups do this but many of the good ones are very concerned with both of these aspects) takes a lot of work. Video encoding isn't just slapping something into a video program, clicking a big red "encode" button and sitting back with a glass of lemonade while the computer does all the work. It can be very technical and nuanced a lot of the time. I read the Ureshii threads regarding Dennou Coil recently, and a lot of the time the encoder talked about leaving the video "noise" in and not over-filtering it, while still keeping the episodes to a manageable file size. Needless to say, the good groups are concerned with how the episodes look and why they translated things a particular way.

So when some goon takes their hard work and goes "LOL now I'm gonna cut it up into ten minute chunks and make the video quality complete shit", yeah, they're going to be irritated, and rightfully so. Sure, they don't have legal ownership of the show itself, but you'd better be damned sure that they have their pride and they also don't really want people putting their stuff on a high-profile site like Youtube where a company is more likely to see it and slap them with a C&D notice.

[carve037.livejournal.com]

I'll second this entire post, rather than posting in detail on my own.

[tsukikage85.livejournal.com]

I'm not at all saying that fansubbing and AMV-making doesn't take a lot of hard work and wanting to receive resasonable credit for it. But making the anime in the first place takes a lot more. I'll admit that I didn't understand at first what they vidder meant by "cut for use in other music videos." I thought that was just saying taking the video clips and not the audio, and I see how that is plagiarism on a totally new level from making the AMV. And I suppose I also understand some vidders being worried about C&D notices, so if that's they reason they have that message, I withdraw my statement on that too. I suppose with those two new understandings, I would still say that fansubbers and vidders should be at least a bit more humble about it.